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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.mynrmacommunity.com/motoring/2007/11/19/lpg-vs-petrol/comment-page-2/#comment-3242</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Toyota Camry V6 engine, 3.0 Litre. I drive mostly in the city (Sydney). I am thinking of installing the LPG fuel system. But i wonder if there is anyone who has installed an LPG on his/her Toyota Camry. Do you think you save money on fuel? or it is pretty much the same. At the moment, i think I spend somewhere around $60 a week on a normal drive. Need to reduce my spending. Would appreciate if someone could give a reply</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Toyota Camry V6 engine, 3.0 Litre. I drive mostly in the city (Sydney). I am thinking of installing the LPG fuel system. But i wonder if there is anyone who has installed an LPG on his/her Toyota Camry. Do you think you save money on fuel? or it is pretty much the same. At the moment, i think I spend somewhere around $60 a week on a normal drive. Need to reduce my spending. Would appreciate if someone could give a reply</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Waterman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Waterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hullo,
I took the advice of Phil Short, and fitted an Aguar water booster unit to my 2007
LPG Ford Falcon. My fuel consumption was approximately 20% better, but the increase in power was the thing that surprised me. For under $200 this thing will pay for itself in no time and it is so easy to fit and use.
Like Phil said, to gain the best performance it must be topped up regularly, but as long as it keeps doing whatever it&#039;s doing, I don&#039;t mind the small inconvenience.
One final note, I ordered my unit over the phone and not via their aguarboost.webs.com website. It arrived within a week and was working the next day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hullo,<br />
I took the advice of Phil Short, and fitted an Aguar water booster unit to my 2007<br />
LPG Ford Falcon. My fuel consumption was approximately 20% better, but the increase in power was the thing that surprised me. For under $200 this thing will pay for itself in no time and it is so easy to fit and use.<br />
Like Phil said, to gain the best performance it must be topped up regularly, but as long as it keeps doing whatever it&#8217;s doing, I don&#8217;t mind the small inconvenience.<br />
One final note, I ordered my unit over the phone and not via their aguarboost.webs.com website. It arrived within a week and was working the next day.</p>
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		<title>By: David Yuill</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Yuill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have run 5 large cars on lpg over the last few years and several hundred thousand km&#039;s.  The benefits are similar to those expressed by others.  The acid test for cost benefit of lpg is whether business owners use it.  The fact that almost every large car taxi in Australia uses it says something about its commercial viability.  Even given the drop in km / litre, the emissions are still reduced by around 20% over the same travelling distance when compared to petrol.  When comparing cost per km travelled and emissions released, this rates favourably against hybrid cars especially when you consider the up front cost of the vehicles.
The government continues to reduce the LPG installation subsidy while promoting photo opportunities like the hybrid Toyota Camry which will sell in small numbers and make little environmental difference at all.  If they were serious about emissions reduction, the LPG subsidy would stay, excise on LPG would not be applied and further disincentives to use petrol would be introduced.  None of this will happen as Kevin is too interested in self promotion rather than solving the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have run 5 large cars on lpg over the last few years and several hundred thousand km&#8217;s.  The benefits are similar to those expressed by others.  The acid test for cost benefit of lpg is whether business owners use it.  The fact that almost every large car taxi in Australia uses it says something about its commercial viability.  Even given the drop in km / litre, the emissions are still reduced by around 20% over the same travelling distance when compared to petrol.  When comparing cost per km travelled and emissions released, this rates favourably against hybrid cars especially when you consider the up front cost of the vehicles.<br />
The government continues to reduce the LPG installation subsidy while promoting photo opportunities like the hybrid Toyota Camry which will sell in small numbers and make little environmental difference at all.  If they were serious about emissions reduction, the LPG subsidy would stay, excise on LPG would not be applied and further disincentives to use petrol would be introduced.  None of this will happen as Kevin is too interested in self promotion rather than solving the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Roscoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roscoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 05:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking to buy a 04 mitsubishi pajero, i have always had diesels but i am considering buying a petrol and converting to gas,can any one tell me what sort of consumption i will get out of gas,i do a lot of highway miles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking to buy a 04 mitsubishi pajero, i have always had diesels but i am considering buying a petrol and converting to gas,can any one tell me what sort of consumption i will get out of gas,i do a lot of highway miles</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Short</title>
		<link>http://www.mynrmacommunity.com/motoring/2007/11/19/lpg-vs-petrol/comment-page-2/#comment-3113</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Everyone,
I recently fitted an Aguar water booster unit to my duel fuel 2000 Toyota Hi-Ace, and was amazed at the results. I was sceptical when a friend told me his car was a different vehicle since fitting the Aguar. He said the power incresed dramatically and his fuel consumption was improved.
I have to tell you that he was absolutely correct, my van has never had so much oomph, and I got 419km[best] out of one LPG tankful against 324km[best] pre Aguar. The system is easy to put on, and apparently injects a water vapour into the inlet manifold to cool the air. I&#039;m no expert, but now four of my mates have put these Aguars on their cars and reckon their fantastic. The only drawback is you have to top it up every day. I got mine on Ebay for $198.00 and it was worth every cent. 
Regards,
Phil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Everyone,<br />
I recently fitted an Aguar water booster unit to my duel fuel 2000 Toyota Hi-Ace, and was amazed at the results. I was sceptical when a friend told me his car was a different vehicle since fitting the Aguar. He said the power incresed dramatically and his fuel consumption was improved.<br />
I have to tell you that he was absolutely correct, my van has never had so much oomph, and I got 419km[best] out of one LPG tankful against 324km[best] pre Aguar. The system is easy to put on, and apparently injects a water vapour into the inlet manifold to cool the air. I&#8217;m no expert, but now four of my mates have put these Aguars on their cars and reckon their fantastic. The only drawback is you have to top it up every day. I got mine on Ebay for $198.00 and it was worth every cent.<br />
Regards,<br />
Phil.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still amazed by all the urban myths that people still believe. If santa ran his slay on LPGas @ 5cpl he would be able to afford much more expensive presents. Does any one really believe that LPGas is sold by the Federal Government. If so which brand is it and who did the deal i want some of that to sell. Sequential Vapour and Liquid injection LPGas systems have been around for a few years now and the efficiency is sensational. LPGas has only got on to 2% of cars and trucks in Australia at best, but it does help to offset CO2 and the short comings of petrol its safe its powerful its greener and is certainly here to stay. LPGas is set to help provide a solution to global warming as it now delivers almost the same economy as petrol litre to litre, with the added bonus of saving over 50% of $ in the hip pocket. People who are eligable to get the $1750.00 grant relise their investment in less than $20,000k&#039;s on the average 4-6 cylinder cars. Typically the  engine life is doubled if the service intervalls are adheared to. 
With over 480,000 registered conversions 250,000 approved grants since 2003 their is real oppotunity for families to enjoy the benefits of LPGas whilst helping the environment. 
Holden first started factory fits in 1991 and Ford followed the lead in 1993-4 since then all the major Australian Car manufactures have had conversions available on a host of different models. with the exception of Nissan who started and got seriously burnt back in 1978 with the 200B.
LPGas has only just started and with over 15,000,000 conversions world wide it is the sleeping beauty. Bring it on.
Ron Caloundra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still amazed by all the urban myths that people still believe. If santa ran his slay on LPGas @ 5cpl he would be able to afford much more expensive presents. Does any one really believe that LPGas is sold by the Federal Government. If so which brand is it and who did the deal i want some of that to sell. Sequential Vapour and Liquid injection LPGas systems have been around for a few years now and the efficiency is sensational. LPGas has only got on to 2% of cars and trucks in Australia at best, but it does help to offset CO2 and the short comings of petrol its safe its powerful its greener and is certainly here to stay. LPGas is set to help provide a solution to global warming as it now delivers almost the same economy as petrol litre to litre, with the added bonus of saving over 50% of $ in the hip pocket. People who are eligable to get the $1750.00 grant relise their investment in less than $20,000k&#8217;s on the average 4-6 cylinder cars. Typically the  engine life is doubled if the service intervalls are adheared to.<br />
With over 480,000 registered conversions 250,000 approved grants since 2003 their is real oppotunity for families to enjoy the benefits of LPGas whilst helping the environment.<br />
Holden first started factory fits in 1991 and Ford followed the lead in 1993-4 since then all the major Australian Car manufactures have had conversions available on a host of different models. with the exception of Nissan who started and got seriously burnt back in 1978 with the 200B.<br />
LPGas has only just started and with over 15,000,000 conversions world wide it is the sleeping beauty. Bring it on.<br />
Ron Caloundra</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I have a 1995 Tarago which was converted to gas recently.  It was orginally converted with the venturi system but the van would often cut out or stutter while driving.  I rang around and found it was not suitable for venturi so I had the installer upgrade to gas injection.  It is much better but still &quot;stutters&quot; on acceleration and decceleration at times- it is still not suitable for driving on gas.  The installer has looked at it many times, changed spark plugs etc, but it is still not right.  Does anyone have any suggestions or know if the 1990s wide body tarago&#039;s are actually suitable for gas?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I have a 1995 Tarago which was converted to gas recently.  It was orginally converted with the venturi system but the van would often cut out or stutter while driving.  I rang around and found it was not suitable for venturi so I had the installer upgrade to gas injection.  It is much better but still &#8220;stutters&#8221; on acceleration and decceleration at times- it is still not suitable for driving on gas.  The installer has looked at it many times, changed spark plugs etc, but it is still not right.  Does anyone have any suggestions or know if the 1990s wide body tarago&#8217;s are actually suitable for gas?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i belive gas is a better way to the future</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i belive gas is a better way to the future</p>
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		<title>By: Macdougal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macdougal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LPG conversion? go to http://www.smartautomotive.com.au/ ---they took good care of my car :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LPG conversion? go to <a href="http://www.smartautomotive.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.smartautomotive.com.au/</a> &#8212;they took good care of my car <img src='http://www.mynrmacommunity.com/motoring/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: I Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 01:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sod the environment, I converted to save $.

I have a 2008 model Prado. I choose to convert to LPG at a cost of $4,200 for the latest SVI system ($2,200 after the $2,000 rebate). I have a car allowance through my work and could not afford the HUGE price I was paying for petrol.

When petrol prices were nudging $1.50/ltr (even for E10) I was paying $160.00 per week for petrol! Once I converted that dropped to $50.00! I now get 11km/ltr (lots of hwy driving) compared to 10.6km/ltr on petrol. (Not be fooled by stats supplied by people that do not use LPG)

The power drop was zero. The company that converted my car put it on the Dyno to ensure if was tuned correctly. I check my oil monthly and it always looks brand new. Even 1 day before a service. Services have been pushed out from every 10,000 to every 15,000 as the oil stays cleaner (another saving).

My prado has now done 70,000kms (40,000 on LPG) with no issues at all.  Now prices have come down I pay around $30.00 to fill up (rather than around $84.00 for petrol based on this mornings price). and have the benefit of duel fuel if need be.

If you are thinking about converting but not sure, just do it. You will save heaps regardless of using slightly more gas. Just buy the best system you can afford. I had the $2,200 (after rebate) paid off in just 5 months!

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sod the environment, I converted to save $.</p>
<p>I have a 2008 model Prado. I choose to convert to LPG at a cost of $4,200 for the latest SVI system ($2,200 after the $2,000 rebate). I have a car allowance through my work and could not afford the HUGE price I was paying for petrol.</p>
<p>When petrol prices were nudging $1.50/ltr (even for E10) I was paying $160.00 per week for petrol! Once I converted that dropped to $50.00! I now get 11km/ltr (lots of hwy driving) compared to 10.6km/ltr on petrol. (Not be fooled by stats supplied by people that do not use LPG)</p>
<p>The power drop was zero. The company that converted my car put it on the Dyno to ensure if was tuned correctly. I check my oil monthly and it always looks brand new. Even 1 day before a service. Services have been pushed out from every 10,000 to every 15,000 as the oil stays cleaner (another saving).</p>
<p>My prado has now done 70,000kms (40,000 on LPG) with no issues at all.  Now prices have come down I pay around $30.00 to fill up (rather than around $84.00 for petrol based on this mornings price). and have the benefit of duel fuel if need be.</p>
<p>If you are thinking about converting but not sure, just do it. You will save heaps regardless of using slightly more gas. Just buy the best system you can afford. I had the $2,200 (after rebate) paid off in just 5 months!</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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